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To tutaj będziemy się z kolei my łotrzykowie produkowali.
Propozycje co do buildów jakie kto ma i jaka jest ich efektywność w raidach.
Ja uzywam hybrydowego drzewka - linka podesle potem bo w arbajcie mam armory zablokowane

Przenosze was na dedykowane forum.

Korczu, masz uprawnienia moderatora na forum rogali. Nie masz ich poza, tak dlugo jak nie wychodzisz poza forum rogue to mozesz robic co ci sie podoba. Kasowac posty, przesuwac, zamykac tematy itd itp.

dziękuję Ci tapirku ty nasza opoko nad tym przepięknym forum gildiowym

Hahahahaha, jaka wazelina

Robie co do mnie nalezy, staram sie aby to forum dzialalo jak trzeba.

PVE

Combat fist/sword
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboxZGcV0bVzEMGot

It's argued that this spec is the complete optimum when it comes to achieving maximum raid DPS (barring a sword spec with both Warglaives of Azzinoth). You wield a fist in your main-hand and a sword in your off-hand, the idea being that the sword will proc extra attacks with your fist which have a 5% additional chance to crit. The only problem with this spec isn't the spec itself, but the poor fist itemisation throughout the raiding scene. Your best bet is to pick up a MH fist from the arena.

Combat swords
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ebovZGcVobVzxMGot

This spec performs on par with combat fist/sword, though some purport it to be a mere 1-2% less effective (others disagree). Due to swords being more prevalent than fists throughout the raiding scene, this spec is far more common than fist/sword and is therefore generally accepted as the raiding spec.

Combat fists
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ebovZGcVobVzVMGot

This is another great raiding spec, and is most often taken by rogues who receive a weapon upgrade in the form of a fist rather than a sword. While the DPS discrepancy between this and the above two specs is fairly minimal, it does fall slightly behind.

Combat mace/sword
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboxZGcV0bVtxMGot

Similar to combat fists, this is a spec most often taken by rogues who receive a main-hand upgrade in the form of a mace rather than a sword. It is much less common than any other combat spec, and is only recommended for rogues who don't have access to a sword of the same quality as their mace. What sets this build apart from combat maces is that the user will be wielding a sword in their off-hand to proc extra main-hand attacks with the mace which gain a critical strike damage bonus. It will perform roughly on par with combat fists.

Combat daggers
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0gcoLZGcVobEz0MGotV

Combat daggers, while not as effective as its sinister striking counterparts, is still a formidable contender in raids. It relies on a high crit chance to deliver consecutive critical backstabs in order to reach full effectiveness. Its sustained DPS is considered to be roughly 3% less than combat swords. Some rogues take combat daggers over other specs because they enjoy its style and rotation more, others take it because they've got access to daggers superior to their sword or fist alternatives.

Combat mutilate
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboERoidVoGcV0bV

Combat mutilate is very different to all the other PVE specs. Its rotations are more frequent and varied, and the itemisation required to make it effective is quite different, being more crit dependant than anything. Some rogues prefer to raid as combat mutilate because they consider it to be the most fun to play, or because they wish to PVP as mutilate without having to respec.

Hemo swords
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboZhfV0bVzLMZEMc0MhMo

A relatively new raiding spec, or rather, a reincarnation of the hemo raid specs of old (which were much less viable), hemo swords is the second of only two PVE specs with points in subtlety. Unlike combat daggers however, hemo swords features quite a lot of its points in the subtlety tree. The idea is that while hemo swords will offer less personal DPS to the rogue than combat swords, the debuff hemo applies to the target will net a DPS increase for all melee classes striking that target in a raid environment. Dirty deeds helps the rogue output significantly higher DPS towards the end of each encounter. The result is a net DPS total quite close to (and depending on raid composition, sometimes higher than) that of combat swords.

skad kopiowales?

z wowheada
inna sprawa ze trzeba ustalic jedna sprawe, nie kazdy rogal musi miec hemobild, dobrze jakby z dwoch rogali na raid jedn mial hemo drugi dobrze jakby mial combat sword
bo - hemo zwieksza dps dla wszystkich meal dps

Myślałem, że to w języku Polskim, ale jednak nie. Podaję kilka innych propozycji za Wowwiki.
Nieco innymi słowami ale mniej więcej to samo napisano. Tutaj z podziałem na rodzaj broni.

Level 70
Dagger Builds
Combat Daggers - 15/41/5
Combat Daggers is a PvE build for high raid damage. It depends on Backstab and maintaining Slice and Dice to do most of its damage. Before the Burning Crusade expansion it was the highest damage build available, but currently is roughly equal to Combat Swords/Fists. Due to the nature of Combat Potency, overall regen is largely determined by the quality and speed of your offhand dagger 1.3-1.5

Mutilate - 41/20/0 - PvE
If your focus is PvE and raiding, you'll need to improve your sustainable dps with combat talents. Dual-wield specialization is the key here, in addition to a huge increase in white damage, it will actually improve your mutilate damage as well. Also, you can never go wrong with improved slice and dice and precision. The same rules apply to you as to combat rogues: white damage is king. Don't ignore your hit rating and AP.

Mutilate - 41/0/20 - PvP
If your focus is PvP, taking subtlety talents will give you higher burst damage and improved ability to stunlock. Having 3/3 Initiative, and 5/5 Sealfate makes it very simple to stock up on combo points. Just open up with a cheap shot and mutilate and you're ready to kidney shot. You can then use cold blood and mutilate to quickly generate more combo points for an eviscerate.

Mutilate - 43/0/18 - PvP
This build is similar in function to the 41/0/20 PvP mutilate build above, but puts the Elusiveness points back in the assassination tree for better poison handling. This build is more suited for fast skirmishes such as arena fights because these do not last long enough for a reduced cooldown on Vanish and Blind to be of any use.

Seal Fate / Premed - 30/0/31
This is a versatile build that takes burst damage and combo point generation from Seal Fate and adds cooldown management with Prep. Dirty Deeds, Premed and Initiative. It offers the ability to open with 5 CP for huge opening and CB for high finishing damage. Imp Ambush with CB for big openers, and Elusiveness for shorter cooldowns. These advantages make it a great PvP build but with Hemo, cheap CS/Garotte and incredible combo point generation it also is an effective PvE build.

Shadowstep Build - 20/0/41
This is a PvP build that features extremely high burst damage. It gives you use of all of the good subtlety talents and just enough of the assassination ones to give you the extra power you need. It also provides +10% Attack Power and +15% agility.



Sword/Fist/Mace Builds
Combat Swords - 19/42/0
Combat swords is currently recognized as, and is mathematically, the best DPS build. You can proc an extra MH attack from sword specialization with either hand. You'll want a quick offhand, Latro's Shifting Sword from Black Morass for beginners. The next best upgrade is S2 Gladiators Sword for Combat Potency purposes. Aggression and Surprise Attacks boost the damage of your Sinister Strike while BF, imp SnD and Dual Wield spec increase your white damage. AR gives you a nice boost in yellow damage every 5 minutes. Surprise Attacks also makes your finishers unable to be dodged. With Precision and stacked hit rating, as long as you are behind a target, your finishers cannot miss or be dodged which means they will always connect.

You can take this build and sub in Fist Spec for combat fists. You are better off with a 1.3s dagger like Warp Splinter's Thorn than with any of the low level off-hand fists. The arena season 2 offhand fist is 1.5s, and is the next best upgrade to the dagger and should be taken. Both fist weapons from Al'ar are great as well.

Going with Mace spec and some better pvp talents also make for a great build with S2 Gladiator's weapons. The DPS in raids is not as strong as swords and fists, but still respectable.

Combat Hemo - 11/27/23
As with all Hemorrhage builds, you do not spec to contend for higher DPS then other rogues, but instead seek to improve the total raid DPS by more then a combat-sword rogue would. With hemo now being normalized weapon speed is actually no longer a concern with hemo builds. The weapon with the best average damage and acceptable DPS is your choice. Keeping a fast OH will still be good for poison and other procs. There are some filler choices here, but not many.

Another Combat Hemo - 11/21/29
1 point less in Sword Spec and 2 points in both WE and DD are how you finish this out for best DPS when wielding swords. If you are using any other weapon, you are better off dropping the weapon specialization and WE in favor of Preperation and 4 points into Deadliness (11/21/29).

Tri-spec Combat Hemo - 11/28/22
This build was developed with the hemo changes of Patch 2.3. In theory, this build should have increase raid DPS more than your personal DPS lost by not speccing into combat. In reality, this never came to pass as the hemo debuff was bugged and spells were removing charges and not ticking the extra damage. This bug was not fixed until 2.3.2 came out.

When 2.3.2 came out and hemo was nerfed this build because mathematically poor vs combat in all aspects. This build is now obsolete and shouldn't be used if you are wanting to achieve your full DPS potential.

Old School PvP Hemo - 27/3/31
This was the hemo spec of old and variants could have some decent impact after 2.3.2.

Combat Maces/Subtlety - 0/33/28
Along with crit dmg/dmg buffs, awesome PvP build in my experience against all classes of toons. Includes Preparation, Adrenaline Rush, Riposte, and Blade Flurry.

Shadowstep Swords - 18/0/43
This build has only been around for a very short while following the Shadowstep buffs (patch 2.3) and especially after the HARP (Hemorrhage/Adrenaline Rush/Preparation) build was altered to only allow one Adrenaline Rush at a time (patch 2.3.2). It focuses on increased mobility and subtlety with more sustained damage over burst damage as in Shadowstep dagger builds by eliminating talents which increase burst damage. This is a PvP build only.

Shadowstep Swords(Combat)PvP - 0/20/41
This build is amazing PvP. It is nearly impossible to be kited with this build. Overall damage is decent, and a shorter Evas CD. 3.5 min CD on sprint and Evas along with prep help immensely as well if you happen to get into a longer arena match. This build has been used before Patch 2.3 Shadowstep buff, and works even better now.

Czytałem jeszcze takie forum - jest tu kilka ciekawostek, jeżeli macie czas na lekturę

http://gamecenter.pl/forum/lofiversion/index.php?f431.html